Apple vs HTC: The Real Purpose of Apple

Posted In Featured, News - By AllHTC On Friday, March 12th, 2010 With 64 Comments

According to the announcment of the analyst of Oppenheimer, Yair Reine, the lawsuit filed by Apple not long ago against the Taiwanese company HTC, is just the culmination of a series of threats designed to struggle with competitors. According to the data, early in January of this year, Apple held a series of talks with mobile phone manufacturers, where the company had expressed “growing dissatisfaction with” the alleged violation of its rights of ownership to the ideas set in the iPhone.

Though these negotiations were conducted in private atmosphere, it became known that their tone was rather rude. At the same time these rivals of Apple in the market of mobile technologies, according to Reiner, mostly tried not to touch the sphere of touch technology, the use of which would really irritate Apple. After all, last year in January, the COO of Apple Tim Cook warned that the company will use all available tools in its arsenal to struggle against the violations of its patents.

For example, until recently there were virtually no mobile devices supporting multi-touch in the U.S. market , which were not produced by Apple. Palm Pre  was an exception, which, according to Reiner, is not perceived as a competitor to iPhone. Recently, however, the situation began to change not in favor of Apple. Two high-quality smartphones, Motorola Droid and HTC Eris Android,  have appeared in the market to compete with multi-touch technology.

Naturally, this caused Apple’s resentment, rightly fearful that the smartphone iPhone will soon lose its status of “unique” device supporting multi-touch functionality, at least in the American market. According to Reiner, the leading phone manufacturers could regard Apple’s silence as a sign of assent, and flood the market with many multi-touch devices, especially after Google also implemented similar functionality in its Android smartphone Nexus One. Many experts are inclined to believe that Apple’s lawsuit against HTC has another real purpose that is to somehow precipitate Google, whose Android operating system and smart phones based on it are becoming a real threat to the iPhone.

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  • jescott418

    I hope Apple loses. Go get em HTC!!!

  • Feldwebel WOlfenstool

    El Presidente Hu, and his lap-dog lackey, the Running-Dog Capitalist Tool Steve Jobs are tag-teaming Google.

    Feld W.

  • RB

    I hope Apple wins! Otherwise, what is the purpose of a patent?

  • Toby

    I tried ditching the iPhone for a Droid Eris. And as much as I don't like Apple's tactics and iron fisted control, I have to say that a lot of the Android interface is VERY much inspired by iPhone. I would almost say a complete ripoff of the iPhone but I will stop just short of that. And what's worse is that either Android doesn't perform as well or the service providers brand the phones and features into not working well.

    Needless to say I turned in my Eris and went and bought a 3GS. There is a reason manufacturers are borrowing heavily on the iPhone. It is more or less bullet proof. Apple is a bit fascist about it but at least the phone works well. And I can't say that for the Eris or the Droid, as far as I have seen with my Eris and with friends Droids that I have messed with.

  • Android

    u need some fact checking, the Nexus One was first to have multi touch not droid's….Also even the venerable G1 hardware was MT capable (and implemted by after market devs including the free dolphin browser for android)

  • Ego

    To protect your own original ideas, not ideas other people came up with or obvious technological advancements that you decide to patent

  • mike_s123

    “precipitate Google?” What exactly do you think that means? Cause Google to happen? Change Google from vapor to liquid?

  • jamesyb0i

    the patent laws need to change, when technology like this is expected and taken for granted it's like saying you can't sell toffee apples because somebody else does

  • $B

    HTC makes nice looking items. Too bad they don't last, and their repair center is rape. $$$

  • arachnivore

    If the ideas are so obvious, why did no one else patent them?

  • droopy

    Patents cannot be awarded for obvious ideas. Them's the rules, or at least supposed to be the rules. There are other criteria that can prevent an idea from being patented, too. For example, an idea that is too vague or general, is supposed to be un-patentable. Of course, if you start looking through the patents on file at the patent office, you'll see stuff that violates those rules. Which just shows that our patent system is broken. Cheers.

  • dbmuse

    I hope Google and HTC did their homework first before releasing their cell phone designs…. I consider google a smart company… don't let me down.

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  • http://www.wyur.org/ Olivia

    HTC is the King of all.

  • Jainy

    I understand that there are still a few drive in movies left in the US. Apple will most likely sue them as well. After all, the do have a screen.

  • lmd10

    The g1 phone by htc,android,google came out in Nov 2008 …Apple needs to get over it

  • http://ttandt.ca/ Ted Manning

    Nah, they probably mean to either set a legal precedent by challenging a company in court less likely to reach your local newspaper. Pre-emp, precedent, or prepare or would work better. Apple sued a pea farmer for using Pod in their name because it “violated” Apple's product trademark. Maybe the grammar police should go work for them rather than talking about the vapours. (Yes, there is a U in Vapour in the civilized world of Canada.)

  • ptg

    ya know they couldve been using a clever metaphor lol, like u said if they “make google happen” or get in this it could get really ugly

  • mike_s123

    The illiteracy here is amazing. It would be correct to say “…precipitate Google jumping in to defend the Android OS,” or “…precipitate some FUD against Google's Android OS…”. But “precipitate Google” is simply meaningless, it's an incomplete thought/sentence. I suspect someone's using large words they don't understand in order to sound erudite/professional.

    Perhaps they meant “goad Google,” which would make more sense.

  • http://www.htcphones.net/ Unapttented

    patenting multitouch gestures is as dumb as patenting pressing a key or opening a door. i don't understand that “I patent everything” behaviour. it seems like it's all about making money and stopping innovation. is that what people want?

  • http://www.htcphones.net/ Unapttented

    patenting multitouch gestures is as dumb as patenting pressing a key or opening a door. i don't understand that “I patent everything” behaviour. it seems like it's all about making money and stopping innovation. is that what people want?

  • Dtkbop

    …So is Apples…Who every heard of a mobile device you have to return back to the company just to
    purchase a battery…The first ipod I bought was infected with their greedy childlike marketing tactic.

  • Dtkbop

    Since it's first fermentation into existence, Apple has stolen ideas from others efforts and called it their own. From the time of Xerox's first graphical interface to now (which they stole) have the same pirate like behavior as before. With there putrid, brainwashing methods of making people believe there products are superior to other as well as turning there consumers into judgmental, argent group in my opinion, makes this an evil, selfish company that should not be support. I wish Bill Gates didn't bail them out in 1997. We would have been rid of this instance of evil. However it probably would have surfaced to the other side like the oil spill in Mexico. Now many companies are taking there ideas and expounding on them. The babies (Apple) don't want to share the milk bottle…Aaaaahhhh…Beside…Apples are made to be eating!!! Eat them live HTC. Don;t even spit out the seeds for fear of them growing again.

  • Soendoro Soetanto

    Win or lose… I have to admit Apple makes good products.
    Soendoro Soetanto

  • The9th

    It's so interesting to see the shift from Windows & Gates being Darkness and the Prince, to Steve Jobs becoming that.

    Maybe there is something to that cliché about human beings envying the success of others and wishing to destroy it and them.

    Maybe the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse are indeed just a myth for Malthusian population control (or as Ebenezer Scrooge so nicely put it about those moldering in Britain's 18th/19th Century poorhouses, Margarita-free-villes, “If they're going to die, they should die soon–and decrease the excess population.

  • nehema

    Wth is Apple moanin about?
    HTC had touch and multi-touch long before Apple even came on the market. My old Prophet did that out of the box and through a fan app there was even more extended support for gestures. The Prophet was out in 2006 and the iPhone was out in 2007.

    Apple wasn't even dreaming of anything of the like. They were making ipods and incredibly overpriced PCs on which you can't even play decent games as always in a time when HTC was already into it's sixth generation smartphone.

    Not sure what retard could hand out a patent for something that was already on the market.

  • leanna

    apple rules. no matter who's idea they stole, apple does it better. every time.

  • Will_nonya

    I find this a very odd comparison. Iphone does set the fashion standard these days and you will see a lot of visual cues borrowed from it but the functioning of the phone itself and the way the user interacts with the phone is so completely different that I can't fathom how anyone would think android is a “complete ripoff”.

  • Will_nonya

    that's odd, i have an HTC Kaiser which outlasted 3 of my co-workers iphones before i upgraded it. I have 2 other HTC phoens, older thant he kaiser, that are still going strong. From my experience HTC makes some of the best hardware out there. The few times i have needed repair parts i was able to purchase them directly from HTC and make the repairs myself for nest to nothing. Try that with Apple.

  • Just Wandering by…

    I wonder how many ways you can present a touch interface on a smartphone. Is it a situation where it is a truly unique design, or a situation where a manufacturer of slacks points at a jeans maker and says “look, they ripped off our idea”.

    True, I haven't used and iPhone (only seen them about at my work), and overall it seems like a fairly basic layout. Should they be able to prevent any similar works coming out and stifle the smartphone market? If they aren't allowed to do so, would that mean the technology would not have emerged due to an inability to recoup R&D costs? Personally, I think it would have eventually come out because what the current market didn't form around Apple's innovation but around the availability of appropriate small touchscreens (an outgrowth of other larger touch screen technology).

  • Just wandering by…

    More important to me, since I am looking for a device to constantly receive all my emails and do internet research on-the-go (plus the occasional movie or game for entertainment) I NEED a device that I can swap out the battery on.

    While more and more places have outlets accessible, there are many times where it is inappropriate or they don't offer outlets to the public (most restaurants have 1 or 2 for their vacuum cleaners, but some places don't let customers use them). Heck, if I go on a week long camping trip, am I suppose to limit myself to car camping on a site with electrical outlets? Am I suppose to haul around a solar panel and either a DC to AC converter or a battery with charging port?

    So, yeah, most urbanites can probably live without the ability to access a battery, but it will always be a deal breaker for me. (Also, I never paid to have RAM or a card installed in my computer, why do they think I'd pay to have a battery installed?)

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_63X42UG7S7NZOGC3UDQ4URSBMM Scottie

    I hope you realise that while apple did take the idea of a GUI from Xerox who designed it for the paperless office, Apple has made many more in innovations than any other company in the electronics and computing world. All you need ids a keen eye to see how many details of Windows were taken directly from Mac. When you add this to the reliability of Apple products and the fact that the software and hardware are made by the same people you get a product that is markedly better than anything else on the market.

  • Rakyth

    Apple products are reliable because they are designed to only provide a functionality in a familiar environment. Unlike Apple, PC's are modular in nature-I can take out my 300w PSU and get a 500w PSU to support a nVidia 9500 graphics card if I wanted to. I can customize every single bit of my computer. This, of course, can and will cause problems.

    Let's compare to Apple's computers. You buy them, use them for whichever apple-specific program, and never go beyond that. Remember the MacBook Air? Certainly had a lot of extra functionality like a Blu-Ray drive, a mobile wireless card..Right?

    No. It had two ports and little else. It was designed with little other use in mind.

  • Rakyth

    I won an iPod Touch in a contest and started using it instead of my Palm IIIxe. And as much as I don't like Palm's lack of marketting and open business style, I have to say that a lot of the Apple interface is VERY much inspired by the iPhone. I would almost say a complete ripoff of the Palm but I will stop just short of that. And what's worse is that either Apple doesn't perform as well or the light I'm working in, but the features are just not working well.

    Needless to say I sold the iPod Touch on Ebay and bought a new Palm. There is a reason Apple computers are borrowing heavilly on the Palm. It is more or less unknown and old. Apple is a bit of a dictator but at least it only crashes once a week. And I can't say that for the Palm or the Sharp, as far as I have seen amongst my own devices and my coworker's.

  • Vitty

    fails….its check mate

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_B7GJ6WUEU7YPOYFO6DPJJUTTUI mat

    Apple popularized the GUI for personal computers, the portable all-digital music device, and touch screen-operated phones and laptops…. but all of these came from re-purposing technologies that already were out there. This is really Apple’s genius, i.e. designing a whole more user-friendly “package”, including a better interface and hardware. But unlike an all-new “invention”, all of this “re-purposing” of existing technologies, does make it easier for others to imitate and try to knock off later. MS Windows is probably a good example of that.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YLMCJWBHFFVZEUEVAIJKE25VOA joseph e

    well the multi touch was invented in 1983 and not by apple. any good lawyer can win this case for htc.

  • Fgfdsgf

    “I wish Bill Gates didn’t bail them out in 1997. We would have been rid of this instance of evil.”nnAre you people for real? I think the whole anti-Apple paranoia that has been going on around online is quite amusing.

  • guest

    Please! . . . Apple know that there phones are pieces of shit and that well built phones like the HTC will grow in popularity . . . most apple products have to go back to apple to be fixed which can be annoying and costly. Not to mention why buy the ipnone if u can get another better built brand with the same style tech

  • Plutonium136

    an apple a day keeps windows away uf8ffuf8ffuf8ffuf8ffuf8ffuf8ffuf8ff!

  • psychPurple

    “…there consumers into judgmental, argent group in my opinion” nnhow are you not as judgmental as any apple consumer!?????nnhow can you blame people for simply choosing a computer that works for them!?

  • Sexpert

    i want to sex

  • Cam2919

    I bought a HTC Wildfire 2 weeks ago and my girlfriend has the new iPhone. The difference between them is huge. The iPhone at AUD$1200 (special deal) vs my HTC Wildfire AUD$350 yet my phone gets a work out on games, internet, wi-fi, you name it and yet the battery outlasts the iPhone which last barely 50% of the same time and actions. Setting up the Wildfire took about an 1hour and a half to get the menu’s customised, as I wanted, etc…. My partner has given upo and has only 8 apps on hers. The rest were too hard to set up.rnrnI have had an iPod Classic 160GB for the past 4 years and it along with iTunes have been the biggest pain in the a–e! Now I’ll be getting a 32GB sd card for my WILDFIRE, adding songs to that and I’ll just take my phone on plane trips around the world instead.rnrnSo glad there’s a company that can take on the greedy and arrogant Apple Corp whoi don’t give a rats about their customers. Have a problem with iTunes or your iPod, iPhone….. good luck getting a tech reply within a week……. Tired HTC and got a reply within 5 hrs! Suck on that Apple! About time your stocks started fall.rnrnHTC…..lead the way – simply and brilliantly!!!!rnrnCam2919

  • HTC – The REAL Alternative

    Hey, by the way…….STOP selling phones around the world HTC……we at Apple have the patent on stored E-Lec-Tric-Ity in a little box – we call it a Battery!

  • Onespeed

    Uhm, IBM has more patents than any other technology company in the world. Get off the kool aid fan boy.rnrn”IBM’s worldwide patent portfolio exceeds 40,000 active patents.”rnrnAnother example of an Apple fanboy distorting the truth from reality and believing in SJ’s world. Good riddance.

  • Matt Sturgeon

    I am disturbed that you havnt heard of Linux, whos (relatively unnoticed) lack of support comes from hardware manufacturers not recognising it as a large enough market to invest in. Like Android linux based Operating Systems are developed by the community and often backed by companies simply because of the morality of “open”/free/libre/gratis software and intellectual-property.nnIt deeply saddens me at the lack of knowledge of linux (and mainly Ubuntu) by even the smartest computer folks, who should know of its amazing power, potential, AND moral openness..nnI am glad to see it is becoming more noticed by markets and commercial developers (hopefully soon game developers u00acu00ac), but would really love to see this process accelerated..nnEveryone: google “Ubuntu” and find out how to get a free replacement for Windows and/or Apple Mac…nnAndroid brings open source to mobiles, hopefully it will promote it on desktops/laptops (linux already owns servers! :)

  • Matt Sturgeon

    I personally feel all commercial operating systems are “Evil and Darkness”, windows especially, Apple included… Google “Gnu Free-Software philosophy” and “Ubuntu Linux”…

  • Matt Sturgeon

    Android was largely developer by the community, simply developing something they believe in… Thats what “Open Source” means, you can see how it works (if you want) and even get involved..nnAndroid dosn’t even cost hardware manufacturers a penny to use/distribute!nnWant open source on your computer? Google “Ubuntu Linux”…

  • Matt Sturgeon

    So does Ubuntu, an ancient African philosophy about sharing, freedom, generosity and mutual respect… Also a free computer operating system based on those same principles… Google “Ubuntu Linux” “Open Source” and “Free-Software philosophy”

  • Matt Sturgeon

    I think people who have never heard of open source swing between hating different closed-source distributors… Ironically Android is Open Source and no one even seems to know!nnIf you wanna rid your selves of Windows, or Mac, look up “Ubuntu Linux”.

  • Matt Sturgeon

    the GUI was originally popularized by Unix based systems running the “X Window System”. Like linux systems, BSD systems and later Mac systems (mac is actually a fork from the open-source BSD operating system!). Unfortunately it was Mac and Windows that brought it to most users in the end, and the market became a monopoly (although quality, ironically seems mirrored with popularity.. ie, windows has most market-share, and is worst quality, linux has least market share, and is built on the best bases and morality, and openness available). Currently linux it polishing up its visualization / GUI to make it pretty too… Again, google “Ubuntu Linux” for a free/open desktop.

  • Anonymous

    U r loser…

  • Harryjr

    I had a windows CE os – Casio casiopea in the early 1990′s that had a touchscreen and had added the pcmcia cellular card option… Perhaps they should sue Apple. Or Apple should drop it, decades old tech is not new or novel.. well, ok, color screens, faster, and different (non replaceable) battery tech, but really…. just “refined” stuff that had been here for ages from others. touch phone that runs apps? new? not really… not at all.

  • jakedasnake

    the way I usually see which side of a big argument is right, is the side thats wrong always resorts to name-calling and talking about killing the opposition. I’ve never seen a pro-apple comment anywhere using the word evil, or even selfish.

  • jakedasnake

    hey, Matt, Im beggining to think your just a spammer. also, lots of people have heard of linux, they just dont use it because they dont want that open of a computer.

  • jakedasnake

    yes, thats why I only see about 5 HTC’s each month, and rarely see anyone without an iPhone

  • john

    @rakyth your reply is childish and poorly worded

  • john

    matt enough! I dont want an open source computer!

  • john

    either your girlfriend’s retarded, or, yeah, your girlfriends retarded. also I dont get it, tell me again what your problem with itunes is?

  • jack

    well, Mr. I didn’t pass 3rd grade english, tell us why iPhones are pieces of shit.

  • Astheniaclear

    Apple makes good products, but there are way too many Apple douche bags out there that think Steve Jobs is a god.

  • Chriswoz

    You are a Liar.

  • Miketrinidad471

    apple stole patents from IBM xerox nokia and a lot more that i didn’t mention and called it there own and now they got some competion and there are crying .. i had an apple i touch it had had a drive error and i was unable to use it .. i went to apple and apple said i need to get a new one … wtf … now i use my evo 4g i had one error on my drive and the fixed it in 20 munites.. so htc is better than apple.. apple is a lie and a cheat for years .. its about time they get eaten alive .. htc you got my full support eat them alive and kill that deamon of a company… its notting but garbage that apple ..

  • Seandadon1

    its crazy to see all the bullsh*t people type.. palm is a piece of sh*t.. yeah they have been doing touchscreen for a long time, but the fact is that they suck at it.. the garbage palm os & the garbage windows mobile suck.. palm is not really into the public game.. they mostly target the business end.. warehouse scanners, mailrooms, etc… so im not surprised to see so many of you low level servants screaming palm.. htc is garbage! if they are so good then why are they releasing phones every three months? for 49.99? comparing an iphone with an htc, is like comparing camry to bentley.. htc is for the dumbed down user.. if you dont like apples strong hold, then jailbreak you device!.. but most of you idiots dont have the mental aptitude to even ssh a device.. and who wants ubuntu? hackers.. watch this guy pushing open source.. yes its free and highly customizable, but you must know c,c+, java, and much more to get the full use of ubuntu.. hackers love to get regular people to use these open source os’s so they can freely roam the internet and steel all your info.. apple simply makes an easier to use product, better built product, and if you have any intelligence and dont mind reading and learning a little, a very customizable and powerful piece of machinery… apple is leading the learning curve… ride with the lead or get lapped!..