HTC Phones

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• Vitty
  fails....its check mate
• leanna
  apple rules. no matter who's idea they stole, apple does it better. every time.
• nehema
  Wth is Apple moanin about?
  HTC had touch and multi-touch long before Apple even came on the market. My old Prophet did that out of the box and through a fan app there was even more extended support for gestures. The Prophet was out in 2006 and the iPhone was out in 2007.
  
  Apple wasn't even dreaming of anything of the like. They were making ipods and incredibly overpriced PCs on which you can't even play decent games as always in a time when HTC was already into it's sixth generation smartphone.
  
  Not sure what retard could hand out a patent for something that was already on the market.
• Soendoro Soetanto
  Win or lose... I have to admit Apple makes good products.
  Soendoro Soetanto
• Unapttented
  patenting multitouch gestures is as dumb as patenting pressing a key or opening a door. i don't understand that "I patent everything" behaviour. it seems like it's all about making money and stopping innovation. is that what people want?
• lmd10
  The g1 phone by htc,android,google came out in Nov 2008 ...Apple needs to get over it
• Olivia
  HTC is the King of all.
• dbmuse
  I hope Google and HTC did their homework first before releasing their cell phone designs.... I consider google a smart company... don't let me down.
• $B
  HTC makes nice looking items. Too bad they don't last, and their repair center is rape. $$$
• Will_nonya
  that's odd, i have an HTC Kaiser which outlasted 3 of my co-workers iphones before i upgraded it. I have 2 other HTC phoens, older thant he kaiser, that are still going strong. From my experience HTC makes some of the best hardware out there. The few times i have needed repair parts i was able to purchase them directly from HTC and make the repairs myself for nest to nothing. Try that with Apple.
• Dtkbop
  ...So is Apples...Who every heard of a mobile device you have to return back to the company just to
  purchase a battery...The first ipod I bought was infected with their greedy childlike marketing tactic.
• Just wandering by...
  More important to me, since I am looking for a device to constantly receive all my emails and do internet research on-the-go (plus the occasional movie or game for entertainment) I NEED a device that I can swap out the battery on.
  
  While more and more places have outlets accessible, there are many times where it is inappropriate or they don't offer outlets to the public (most restaurants have 1 or 2 for their vacuum cleaners, but some places don't let customers use them). Heck, if I go on a week long camping trip, am I suppose to limit myself to car camping on a site with electrical outlets? Am I suppose to haul around a solar panel and either a DC to AC converter or a battery with charging port?
  
  So, yeah, most urbanites can probably live without the ability to access a battery, but it will always be a deal breaker for me. (Also, I never paid to have RAM or a card installed in my computer, why do they think I'd pay to have a battery installed?)
• jamesyb0i
  the patent laws need to change, when technology like this is expected and taken for granted it's like saying you can't sell toffee apples because somebody else does
• mike_s123
  "precipitate Google?" What exactly do you think that means? Cause Google to happen? Change Google from vapor to liquid?
• mike_s123
  The illiteracy here is amazing. It would be correct to say "...precipitate Google jumping in to defend the Android OS," or "...precipitate some FUD against Google's Android OS...". But "precipitate Google" is simply meaningless, it's an incomplete thought/sentence. I suspect someone's using large words they don't understand in order to sound erudite/professional.
  
  Perhaps they meant "goad Google," which would make more sense.
• ptg
  ya know they couldve been using a clever metaphor lol, like u said if they "make google happen" or get in this it could get really ugly
• Ted Manning
  Nah, they probably mean to either set a legal precedent by challenging a company in court less likely to reach your local newspaper. Pre-emp, precedent, or prepare or would work better. Apple sued a pea farmer for using Pod in their name because it "violated" Apple's product trademark. Maybe the grammar police should go work for them rather than talking about the vapours. (Yes, there is a U in Vapour in the civilized world of Canada.)
• Android
  u need some fact checking, the Nexus One was first to have multi touch not droid's....Also even the venerable G1 hardware was MT capable (and implemted by after market devs including the free dolphin browser for android)
• Toby
  I tried ditching the iPhone for a Droid Eris. And as much as I don't like Apple's tactics and iron fisted control, I have to say that a lot of the Android interface is VERY much inspired by iPhone. I would almost say a complete ripoff of the iPhone but I will stop just short of that. And what's worse is that either Android doesn't perform as well or the service providers brand the phones and features into not working well.
  
  Needless to say I turned in my Eris and went and bought a 3GS. There is a reason manufacturers are borrowing heavily on the iPhone. It is more or less bullet proof. Apple is a bit fascist about it but at least the phone works well. And I can't say that for the Eris or the Droid, as far as I have seen with my Eris and with friends Droids that I have messed with.
• Rakyth
  I won an iPod Touch in a contest and started using it instead of my Palm IIIxe. And as much as I don't like Palm's lack of marketting and open business style, I have to say that a lot of the Apple interface is VERY much inspired by the iPhone. I would almost say a complete ripoff of the Palm but I will stop just short of that. And what's worse is that either Apple doesn't perform as well or the light I'm working in, but the features are just not working well.
  
  Needless to say I sold the iPod Touch on Ebay and bought a new Palm. There is a reason Apple computers are borrowing heavilly on the Palm. It is more or less unknown and old. Apple is a bit of a dictator but at least it only crashes once a week. And I can't say that for the Palm or the Sharp, as far as I have seen amongst my own devices and my coworker's.
• Just Wandering by...
  I wonder how many ways you can present a touch interface on a smartphone. Is it a situation where it is a truly unique design, or a situation where a manufacturer of slacks points at a jeans maker and says "look, they ripped off our idea".
  
  True, I haven't used and iPhone (only seen them about at my work), and overall it seems like a fairly basic layout. Should they be able to prevent any similar works coming out and stifle the smartphone market? If they aren't allowed to do so, would that mean the technology would not have emerged due to an inability to recoup R&D costs? Personally, I think it would have eventually come out because what the current market didn't form around Apple's innovation but around the availability of appropriate small touchscreens (an outgrowth of other larger touch screen technology).
• Will_nonya
  I find this a very odd comparison. Iphone does set the fashion standard these days and you will see a lot of visual cues borrowed from it but the functioning of the phone itself and the way the user interacts with the phone is so completely different that I can't fathom how anyone would think android is a "complete ripoff".
• RB
  I hope Apple wins! Otherwise, what is the purpose of a patent?
• Ego
  To protect your own original ideas, not ideas other people came up with or obvious technological advancements that you decide to patent
• arachnivore
  If the ideas are so obvious, why did no one else patent them?
• Jainy
  I understand that there are still a few drive in movies left in the US. Apple will most likely sue them as well. After all, the do have a screen.
• The9th
  It's so interesting to see the shift from Windows & Gates being Darkness and the Prince, to Steve Jobs becoming that.
  
  Maybe there is something to that cliché about human beings envying the success of others and wishing to destroy it and them.
  
  Maybe the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse are indeed just a myth for Malthusian population control (or as Ebenezer Scrooge so nicely put it about those moldering in Britain's 18th/19th Century poorhouses, Margarita-free-villes, "If they're going to die, they should die soon--and decrease the excess population.
• droopy
  Patents cannot be awarded for obvious ideas. Them's the rules, or at least supposed to be the rules. There are other criteria that can prevent an idea from being patented, too. For example, an idea that is too vague or general, is supposed to be un-patentable. Of course, if you start looking through the patents on file at the patent office, you'll see stuff that violates those rules. Which just shows that our patent system is broken. Cheers.
• Feldwebel WOlfenstool
  El Presidente Hu, and his lap-dog lackey, the Running-Dog Capitalist Tool Steve Jobs are tag-teaming Google.
  
  Feld W.
• jescott418
  I hope Apple loses. Go get em HTC!!!
• Dtkbop
  Since it's first fermentation into existence, Apple has stolen ideas from others efforts and called it their own. From the time of Xerox's first graphical interface to now (which they stole) have the same pirate like behavior as before. With there putrid, brainwashing methods of making people believe there products are superior to other as well as turning there consumers into judgmental, argent group in my opinion, makes this an evil, selfish company that should not be support. I wish Bill Gates didn't bail them out in 1997. We would have been rid of this instance of evil. However it probably would have surfaced to the other side like the oil spill in Mexico. Now many companies are taking there ideas and expounding on them. The babies (Apple) don't want to share the milk bottle...Aaaaahhhh...Beside...Apples are made to be eating!!! Eat them live HTC. Don;t even spit out the seeds for fear of them growing again.
• Scottie
  I hope you realise that while apple did take the idea of a GUI from Xerox who designed it for the paperless office, Apple has made many more in innovations than any other company in the electronics and computing world. All you need ids a keen eye to see how many details of Windows were taken directly from Mac. When you add this to the reliability of Apple products and the fact that the software and hardware are made by the same people you get a product that is markedly better than anything else on the market.
• Rakyth
  Apple products are reliable because they are designed to only provide a functionality in a familiar environment. Unlike Apple, PC's are modular in nature-I can take out my 300w PSU and get a 500w PSU to support a nVidia 9500 graphics card if I wanted to. I can customize every single bit of my computer. This, of course, can and will cause problems.
  
  Let's compare to Apple's computers. You buy them, use them for whichever apple-specific program, and never go beyond that. Remember the MacBook Air? Certainly had a lot of extra functionality like a Blu-Ray drive, a mobile wireless card..Right?
  
  No. It had two ports and little else. It was designed with little other use in mind.

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